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  • Reply to: The Pro-Junk Mail Lobby: Fighting to Sustain the Unsustainable?   16 years 4 months ago
    <blockquote>"The countless banking and insurance ads in junk mail are annoying. They are also annoying in the paper, in the magazines, on the radio, on billboards and in TV."</blockquote> Yes, but people CHOOSE to buy the newspapers, magazines and the TV sets. What's so complex about that point? <blockquote>"Ready to stop getting certain information from your city, county and state? Ready to see your favorite charity take a huge hit? Ditto for your church."</blockquote> Charities and political candidates are exempt from the national do-not-call registry. Life is so much nicer now that we have that law, even with those exemptions. I get the feeling you're a professional complexifier.
  • Reply to: The Pro-Junk Mail Lobby: Fighting to Sustain the Unsustainable?   16 years 4 months ago
    If you want to stop your junk mail, do it. The corporate big wigs who are making money by making your life miserable only succeed at this because we don't stop it. Don't wait for "a bill to pass" or whatever, get on your phone and call the companies who fill your mailbox. It took almost two years but I finally stopped all incoming "junk mail". And yes, without question it was the most mindless, frustrating endeavor, but I had enough. (It was the morning I went out to my mail box and couldn't open it because of all the "junk mail" that set me on the war-path with junk mailers. Consumers have to know that no one is going to stop your junk mail; if you want it done, do it yourself. Each and every shred of paper that came to my house, I'd call the company and demand that they take me off their mailing list as well as any list they "rent or sell". Unfortunately this does not stop it immediately - they take your name off and continue to send mail to "or current resident". Call again. It will stop. You may have to call once or twice "to remind them", but stay on it and you will be junk free. I can't tell you how wonderful it is to have an empty mailbox. Not one shred of unwanted mail comes to my house or "current resident". People (or companies) only have the power we give them. Take the power back and send them on their way ...
  • Reply to: The Pro-Junk Mail Lobby: Fighting to Sustain the Unsustainable?   16 years 4 months ago
    This may be a very good place to follow the money. Who benefits most if junk mail were to disappear? Might it be newspapers? Traditionally, newspapers have editorialized against junk mail. There are all sorts of reasons why junk mail is an annoyance and certainly the way it is used could be improved. The vitriol and ridicule along with the fraudulent "evidence" used by professional lobbyists on both sides of all sorts of issues, that is seeping into this dialog is disturbing, though. may i make a few points? the countless banking and insurance ads in junk mail are annoying. They are also annoying in the paper, in the magazines, on the radio, on billboards and in TV. Those ads have annoyances specific to the medium but it is not the medium that makes them annoying. contrary to vague statement above that the DMA's Do not mail list was difficult to use, in fact, it takes only a phone call or a letter to use. junk mail is effective. Were it not, people would spend their ad dollars elsewhere. some more effective, some less. Mailers would love to send less and targetting skills are growing. You will see more and more smaller, more effective mailings. junk mail works for some industries and campaigns and is weak or bad for others. The ad agency for the post office doesn't get that. The post office campaigns to promote junk mail are in the bad category. in my opinion the post office should fill a need not create a need to fill. Ads and PR that create awareness are good, ones that promote the use of mail, not so hot. (However ditto with airline subsidies that hurt rail, junk food subsidies that profit fast food's rapid employee turn-over, etc. it is worse, though. The new rates in periodicals favor large mailers like Time-Warner at the expense of small mailers like your state's magazine or small newsletters. Not so good but TW wrote the law, basically, so what should we expect. Recycling: the communities that don't recycle should with or without junk mail. All sorts of household and office paper are carried to the recycling center. Mail is just a part of it. a lot of the tax dollars used to recycle come rromo business who get their business from junk mail. it would be nice to be able to stop getting certain pieces of mail. Try the Do Not Mail registrar. It'll stop some after a couple of months. Want to stop a whole class of mail?like Standard (what used to be known as third class for the most part)? Ready to stop getting certain information from your city, county and state? Ready to see your favorite charity take a huge hit? Ditto for your church. it is a complex issue. The solutions are available but take thought. Remember the law of unintended consequences. Everything we do, along with maybe solving our problem, has a consequence we never intended.
  • Reply to: U.S. Liberal Bloggers Brought to Israel to Show Them "Reality"   16 years 4 months ago

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/04/14/AR2008041402647.html

    Jewish Liberals to Launch A Counterpoint to AIPAC
    Washington Post, April 15, 2008

    "... several prominent Israeli figures, as well as activists who have raised money for the [[Democracy Alliance]] and [[MoveOn.org]], are also involved. ..."

    [[Tom Matzzie]] is the political lobbyist and strategist for MoveOn and for [[Campaign to Defend America]] with [[Wes Boyd]] the MoveOn founder.

  • Reply to: The Pro-Junk Mail Lobby: Fighting to Sustain the Unsustainable?   16 years 4 months ago
    Int Paper letter at www.itmovesthemail.com here's the WashPost... washingtonpost.com Correction to This Article Earlier versio nof the article misstated the number of people who signed an online petition created by ForestEthics. It was 28,900, not 289,000. Efforts to Block Junk Mail Slowed Postal Service Argues Against Registries to State Lawmakers By Lyndsey Layton Washington Post Staff Writer Wednesday, March 19, 2008; A13 Chris Pearson, a state legislator in Vermont, had a sense that the people were with him when he proposed a bill last November to allow residents to block junk mail. He got media attention, radio interview requests and e-mails from constituents eager to stop the credit card offers, furniture catalogues and store fliers that increasingly clog their mailboxes. Then came the pushback from the postmasters, who told Pearson and other lawmakers that "standard" mail, the post office's name for junk mail, has become the lifeblood of the U.S. Postal Service and that jobs depend on it. "The post office and the business groups are pretty well-organized," said Pearson, whose bill remains in a committee and has not been scheduled for a vote. Barred by law from lobbying, the Postal Service is nonetheless trying to make its case before a growing number of state legislatures that are weighing bills to create Do Not Mail registries, which are similar to the popular National Do Not Call Registry. The agency has printed 3,000 "information packets" about the economic value of standard mail, with specific data for each of the 18 states that have considered a Do Not Mail Registry. It has dispatched postmasters to testify before legislative committees around the country. "The Postal Service has come in and clobbered legislators," said Todd Paglia, executive director of ForestEthics, an environmental group that has collected 289,000 signatures on an online petition to Congress that calls for a National Do Not Mail Registry. "It's really a people-versus-special interest kind of battle." The Postal Service is working closely with the Direct Marketing Association, the trade group that represents retailers and the printing industry, in its new campaign -- Mail Moves America -- which is designed to quash the Do Not Mail initiatives. So far, their efforts appear effective. None of the states where Do Not Mail legislation has been introduced since 2007 has approved a law. And no similar legislation is pending in Congress. Sean Sheehan of the Center for a New American Dream, a progressive group based in Takoma Park, said state efforts may precede national action, just as they did with the Do Not Call Registry. "Federal legislators are more sensitive to the heavy lobbying of the paper industry, as well as the impact on the postal service, whereas a lot of state legislators are really more in tune with local needs," Sheehan said. "It's local governments that have to pay millions to truck that trash out to landfills." So far in the 2008 campaign cycle, the Direct Marketing Association has made $141,877 in contributions to federal candidates, including $6,610 to Sen. Thomas R. Carper (D-Del.), who chairs the subcommittee that oversees the Postal Service and does not face reelection until 2012. Perhaps surprisingly, environmental groups -- whose members say they are concerned about junk mail -- are cool to the idea of a registry that prohibits marketers from sending mail to those enrolled and that fines violators. One reason may be that most environmental groups are themselves junk mailers. They use standard mail for their solicitation letters. A national registry "would affect anybody who mails," said Laura Hickey, senior director of global warming education at the National Wildlife Foundation, which belongs to the Direct Marketing Association. "I don't think it would be any different whether you were for-profit or nonprofit.'' As an alternative, the National Wildlife Foundation, the Natural Resources Defense Council and other groups have created Catalogue Choice, a program that asks retailers to voluntarily stop sending catalogues to anyone who signs up for the free online service at http://www.catalogchoice.org. "If people participate in a voluntary system, then I don't see the need for a legislative strategy," Hickey said. When Catalogue Choice was launched in October, the foundation expected about 150,000 people to sign up in the first year. Six months into the project, more than 642,000 people have joined. "It obviously filled a void," Hickey said. Still, it is unclear how many marketers are voluntarily heeding requests to stop mailing. The Direct Marketing Association operates its own registry ( http://www.dmachoice.org) and in an e-mail sent last November, instructed its members to ignore Catalogue Choice. Postal officials say they are aware of the environmental concerns related to junk mail. In testimony on Capitol Hill last week, Postmaster General John E. Potter told lawmakers that the Postal Service has one answer: Recycling bins positioned beneath personal mailboxes at post offices, to catch junk mail as it tumbles out. © 2008 The Washington Post Company Fascinating to see how Pitney & co are trying to spin this. We WILL get a Do Not Mail Registry!!!!!

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